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Post by SoBrill Wed 24 Aug 2016, 6:33 pm

Hello there!

I was just wondering why raisins are considered to be bad to give to mice but raisins are not, since raisins are just dried grapes.

Thank you in advance for answering!
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Post by Rodents rock! Wed 24 Aug 2016, 6:35 pm

Hi - dried fruit has a lot more concentrated sugar than fruit in it's original/natural state. Too much sugar isn't good for mice. Hope this helps. Smile
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Post by Peachy Wed 24 Aug 2016, 7:17 pm

Raisins have been linked to kidney failure in other animals. I have no idea if it's a definitive thing with mice or if it's simply better safe than sorry, but better safe than sorry. Smile
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Post by River Wed 24 Aug 2016, 8:48 pm

I've heard of people giving their mice raisins and the mice dying shortly after. For some reason, this doesn't happen with all mice, so I'm not sure. I wouldn't want to risk it though.

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Post by AnonONIagent Wed 24 Aug 2016, 11:46 pm

abeona wrote:Raisins have been linked to kidney failure in other animals. I have no idea if it's a definitive thing with mice or if it's simply better safe than sorry, but better safe than sorry. Smile
Grapes have been linked to kidney failure too, I believe, so it's easy to see why raisins are. Also, raisins have a sticky consistency that makes it very easy for mice to choke on them.


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Post by Peachy Wed 24 Aug 2016, 11:51 pm

You know... on the old forum, the admin who advised to pick out raisins said that grapes weren't an issue, but I know with dogs they say no raisins or grapes. When I Googled earlier, I didn't actually find anything about the toxicity of raisins relative to mice, but I know for sure that kidney failure is why the admin said to pick them out. Weird. Pardon
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Post by CallaLily Thu 25 Aug 2016, 7:45 am

This is a question I've had before (why no to raisins, but ok to grapes) but I never found a clear answer. I know grapes and raisins are a no no for other pets, such as dogs, because of kidney failure. From what I've read, it doesn't seem to be set in stone for dogs either. Some have eaten very little and became quite ill, others have gotten into a lot and been just fine.

Anyway, because of this I choose to skip both raisins and grapes just to be safe. Really there are so many different foods that are safe, there's no reason to risk it. They're not missing out on anything from not getting grapes/raisins.

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Post by Rodents rock! Thu 25 Aug 2016, 8:30 am

I agree, if there is any doubt, don't feed grapes or raisins. Like Callalily said, there are so many other choices of safe foods for mice.
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Post by MouseLover Fri 26 Aug 2016, 7:37 pm

I believe that grapes are fine - as long as you peel them - because mice can choke on the skins. So perhaps the issue is that raisins aren't peeled?

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Post by CinnamonPearl Fri 26 Aug 2016, 7:53 pm

I heard that grapes are very poisonous to dogs. There's even a story about grape ice cream, and the reason we don't have it is because Ben of Ben and Jerry's made grape ice cream to impress a girl, but when he did it, she gave a lick to her dog, and the dog just keeled over and died. So he lost the girl and never released the ice cream.

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Post by MouseLover Fri 26 Aug 2016, 7:59 pm

Grapes can cause kidney failure in dogs. Not sure how many grapes they'd need to eat for that to happen though. There's no evidence for them being dangerous to mice apparently, but I guess mice are more suited to eating fruit than dogs? Confused

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