Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
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Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
Hey guys I know topics have been made like this before but I'm particularly worried (although also excited) for the upcoming introduction of my mice. Bird was my first baby and I have a special love for her due to having to supplement and feed her formula when I first got her due to her young age. She has remained rather shy and skittish but opens up to me when she feels secure.
My two newbie girls (Mogwai and Mowgli) are what I would guess around 5-6 weeks old, so all of my mice are around the same age. M&M are already accustomed to my hand being around (although no handling yet), and are more social than Bird.
I'm worried that in the introduction having two new mice will be overwhelming for Bird, and that she's going to get bullied. I still have a couple weeks left of Q but I'm quite anxious over this so any advice would help.
What's the best way to introduce one female to a duo?
My two newbie girls (Mogwai and Mowgli) are what I would guess around 5-6 weeks old, so all of my mice are around the same age. M&M are already accustomed to my hand being around (although no handling yet), and are more social than Bird.
I'm worried that in the introduction having two new mice will be overwhelming for Bird, and that she's going to get bullied. I still have a couple weeks left of Q but I'm quite anxious over this so any advice would help.
What's the best way to introduce one female to a duo?
SkywalkerSyd- Jr Member
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
I wish I have magical advice for you but the best way to introduce them is the same for everyone. Neutral territory, no blood/no problem, etc. Have you read our section on introductions already?
https://www.petmousefanciers.com/t19-keeping-mice-together-introducing-them
One more thing you can do before introductions is to swap out nest boxes a few days before to help them get used to each others smells. It's best if they are the same size/age, which it sounds like they are, so that's good! Females want and need to live together. They may squeak, chase, and bicker but that's all normal. They will work it out because they need each other and they know it. Sometimes intros go rough, but if there is no blood, there is no problem.
Good luck!
https://www.petmousefanciers.com/t19-keeping-mice-together-introducing-them
One more thing you can do before introductions is to swap out nest boxes a few days before to help them get used to each others smells. It's best if they are the same size/age, which it sounds like they are, so that's good! Females want and need to live together. They may squeak, chase, and bicker but that's all normal. They will work it out because they need each other and they know it. Sometimes intros go rough, but if there is no blood, there is no problem.
Good luck!
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scaredymouse- Hero Member
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
Thank you for the response
I had their introduction today in the bathtub with just a few toilet paper rolls (with an extra hole cut in the center so Bird couldn't be corned in the tube), and it went really well! I dabbed each of there backside above their tails with vanilla so I don't know if that is why it went so swimmingly but they seemed to accept each other right away.
After moving them into the tank together I slowly began adding more toys to the tank, and they've all been sleeping in an egg carton nest for a good majority of the day. There's been a couple small squeaky squabbles inside the carton but I'm sure it's just a case of someone stepping on anothers tail. These squabbles are almost identical to the rare tiny squabbles Mogwai and Mowgli have had in quarantine, so I have found it not very worrying.
I'm going to continue to keep watch on things for their first night all together, but having Mogwai and Mowgli around already seems to be bringing Bird out of her shell and making her happy.
I had their introduction today in the bathtub with just a few toilet paper rolls (with an extra hole cut in the center so Bird couldn't be corned in the tube), and it went really well! I dabbed each of there backside above their tails with vanilla so I don't know if that is why it went so swimmingly but they seemed to accept each other right away.
After moving them into the tank together I slowly began adding more toys to the tank, and they've all been sleeping in an egg carton nest for a good majority of the day. There's been a couple small squeaky squabbles inside the carton but I'm sure it's just a case of someone stepping on anothers tail. These squabbles are almost identical to the rare tiny squabbles Mogwai and Mowgli have had in quarantine, so I have found it not very worrying.
I'm going to continue to keep watch on things for their first night all together, but having Mogwai and Mowgli around already seems to be bringing Bird out of her shell and making her happy.
SkywalkerSyd- Jr Member
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
Oh, how sweet! I just love how social mice are!
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
That is wonderful to hear. When I used to have rats, my one rattle girl, Brandy was very afraid & shy. I introduced a younger rattle girl, Cleo, and Brandy became a totally different girl. No longer afraid. Cleo brought Brandy out of her shell. Gosh, I'm tearing up just thinking about my girls. I sure do miss them.
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
excellent news! I love how mice surprise us sometimes
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Gentleman mice: milo, jimmy
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Penny, Honeybun, Lucy, Annie, Gilly, Furgie, Tedward Wigglesworth, Olivia, Goose, Sweet Katie, Binky, Delilah, Bitsy, Boopers, Sprout, Splotchy, Eva, Slappy, Shuggie, Fancy Pants, Jellybean, Charlie, Murray, Sally, Maya, Gunther, Lil Smokey, Magnus, Norman, Winnie, Sally, George, Harriet, Spec, Erzulie, Lucille, Agatha and Clementine.
scaredymouse- Hero Member
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
Thanks for all the support and comments!
They've been together for 5 days now and still have the occasional scuffle (no blood though), I know that they're still working out their hierarchy, but I was just wondering as time goes on should I still expect the occasional scuffle/argument?
Aw little ratties! I was thinking about adopting some once I get more space in the future as my local SPCA has lots up for adoption. I hear they're basically like little puppies with their loyalty once tamed!
They've been together for 5 days now and still have the occasional scuffle (no blood though), I know that they're still working out their hierarchy, but I was just wondering as time goes on should I still expect the occasional scuffle/argument?
Rodents rock! wrote:That is wonderful to hear. When I used to have rats, my one rattle girl, Brandy was very afraid & shy. I introduced a younger rattle girl, Cleo, and Brandy became a totally different girl. No longer afraid. Cleo brought Brandy out of her shell. Gosh, I'm tearing up just thinking about my girls. I sure do miss them.
Aw little ratties! I was thinking about adopting some once I get more space in the future as my local SPCA has lots up for adoption. I hear they're basically like little puppies with their loyalty once tamed!
SkywalkerSyd- Jr Member
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
A lot of mice continue to bicker from time to time, no need to worry about that. But do have a colony that never fights!
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Lady mice: stormy, Dahlia, lily, Ella billie, coco, maggie
Gentleman mice: milo, jimmy
Other pets: Little Buddy, Kevin (cats) robert, lulu, Englebert, harold, Gerald, Zumi, nico, charlie, (hamsters), stella (gerbil), Gilly (hedgehog)
Penny, Honeybun, Lucy, Annie, Gilly, Furgie, Tedward Wigglesworth, Olivia, Goose, Sweet Katie, Binky, Delilah, Bitsy, Boopers, Sprout, Splotchy, Eva, Slappy, Shuggie, Fancy Pants, Jellybean, Charlie, Murray, Sally, Maya, Gunther, Lil Smokey, Magnus, Norman, Winnie, Sally, George, Harriet, Spec, Erzulie, Lucille, Agatha and Clementine.
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Re: Introducing one shy mouse to a social duo? Help!
SkywalkerSyd wrote:Thanks for all the support and comments!
They've been together for 5 days now and still have the occasional scuffle (no blood though), I know that they're still working out their hierarchy, but I was just wondering as time goes on should I still expect the occasional scuffle/argument?Rodents rock! wrote:That is wonderful to hear. When I used to have rats, my one rattle girl, Brandy was very afraid & shy. I introduced a younger rattle girl, Cleo, and Brandy became a totally different girl. No longer afraid. Cleo brought Brandy out of her shell. Gosh, I'm tearing up just thinking about my girls. I sure do miss them.
Aw little ratties! I was thinking about adopting some once I get more space in the future as my local SPCA has lots up for adoption. I hear they're basically like little puppies with their loyalty once tamed!
Yes, I always describe rats as tiny dogs. They really are wonderful pets. So much personality and so sweet! They want to be with you all the time!
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