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Re: Safe Foods
@disastervibe
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
Re: Safe Foods
Mir’s Many Mice wrote:@disastervibe
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
Switching my mix from one with timothy and alfalfa hay to one with just alfalfa meal, so interested in any further info.
A rat owner once mentioned to me it might be a possible allergen, but grass and hay are both listed as safe here.
By 'more natural sugars' might they mean more soluble fiber? Which should be fine as long as they are getting an appropriate amount. As for digestion of alfalfa in particular, I found this article mentioning "It contains many enzymes, including amylase, invertase, and pectinase, so it can be used as digestive aids."
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Re: Safe Foods
It’s been a few years since I was last able to look into this topic & you bring up some new points!
I’ll have to dig deep again and try to find some of my old sources & some new ones.
I’ll have to dig deep again and try to find some of my old sources & some new ones.
Re: Safe Foods
Mir’s Many Mice wrote:@disastervibe
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
Floopsy wrote:Mir’s Many Mice wrote:@disastervibe
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
Switching my mix from one with timothy and alfalfa hay to one with just alfalfa meal, so interested in any further info.
A rat owner once mentioned to me it might be a possible allergen, but grass and hay are both listed as safe here.
By 'more natural sugars' might they mean more soluble fiber? Which should be fine as long as they are getting an appropriate amount. As for digestion of alfalfa in particular, I found this article mentioning "It contains many enzymes, including amylase, invertase, and pectinase, so it can be used as digestive aids."
Thanks guys! I just got some timothy hay since that's what the store had anyway that wouldn't break the bank.
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Re: Safe Foods
Mir’s Many Mice wrote:@disastervibe
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
and @disastervibe
Mice do not naturally consume a lot of hay; in cages it's more used for enrichment than anything. In addition, mice should never be fed hay-based pellets as mice cannot process hay well. So, since it isn't ingested in a large enough quantity for nutrition to be worried about, what you really should be looking for is a soft-stemmed hay. From my experience orchard grass hay is best.
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Re: Safe Foods
Robin~ wrote:Mir’s Many Mice wrote:@disastervibe
I’ve heard that rodent owners (rabbits, rats, mice etc.) should avoid Alfalfa hay because it isn’t a ‘grass’ hay & contains more natural sugars that actually impede digestion rather than help it like grass hay does.
I personally stick to Timothy hay.
and @disastervibe
Mice do not naturally consume a lot of hay; in cages it's more used for enrichment than anything. In addition, mice should never be fed hay-based pellets as mice cannot process hay well. So, since it isn't ingested in a large enough quantity for nutrition to be worried about, what you really should be looking for is a soft-stemmed hay. From my experience orchard grass hay is best.
Yeah, I know they don't tend to really eat it so much as use it for nesting and such, I just am kinda a worry-wort (nervous soon-to-be mouse parent) and didn't want to put something in their cage that could be bad for them.
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Re: Safe Foods
Does anyone know about oregano? When I look it up all I can find is that it smells so some people use herbs to deter wild mice, but nothing about it being edible. Rats can apparently eat it if that's any help?
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Re: Safe Foods
@River Oregano is safe!
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Re: Safe Foods
Thanks.
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amaranth
Is amaranth safe for mice? I know it is for rats.
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Re: Safe Foods
disastervibe wrote:Is amaranth safe for mice? I know it is for rats.
Yup! Most other flour seeds are safe, too, including sorghum, quinoa, and all varieties of millet.
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Re: Safe Foods
Robin~ wrote:disastervibe wrote:Is amaranth safe for mice? I know it is for rats.
Yup! Most other flour seeds are safe, too, including sorghum, quinoa, and all varieties of millet.
Thanks! Turns out my girls really do not like sorghum (big part of the higgin's sunburst I bought lmao) or those cylindrical lab blocks that come in the higgin's sunburst, so I'm trying to find out different things they like, and amaranth seemed like a nutritious seed to try.
PS In the mean time I'm mixing in some Science Selective Supreme Rat and Mouse food in with the Sunburst (50/50 ratio) so they don't have glaring nutritional deficiencies.
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